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Unwraping truncated cone shape structure
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:23 pm
by Ingsayyad
I want to unwrape a pillar which has cone shape. How can I do it. For cylinder I knoww CC works well.
Lower radius=1.8506 m (red in pic)
Upper radius=1.6849 m (green in pic)
Please see attached figure.
Re: Unwraping cone shape structure
Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:33 pm
by daniel
Well you "just" have to do some math in order to deduce the cone apex position and angle. I guess Thales is you friend here (you just need the height between the red and green circles ;).
Then the "Unroll" tool has a "Cone" mode.
EDIT: anyway, the green and red circles don't look very well "centered". Not sure what you'll get. Maybe unrolling this column as a "cylinder" would not be so bad.
Re: Unwraping cone shape structure
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 12:36 pm
by Ingsayyad
deduce the cone apex position and angle
Can you plaese give link.
The coordinates of my pillar
Bottom circle : xyz: 22.2154,59.3347, 0
Top circle : xyz: 22.2170,59.3813,24
EDIT: anyway, the green and red circles don't look very well "centered"
Yes, The pillar is not straight.
Maybe unrolling this column as a "cylinder" would not be so bad.
It would be too much approximation. Don't you think so. I need to do for mm accuracy.
Please help me to find solution.
Re: Unwraping cone shape structure
Posted: Mon Feb 09, 2015 1:28 pm
by daniel
I was thinking about Thales' Intercept thorem ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intercept_theorem
And for the cylinder VS cone unrolling accuracy, it all depends what you want to do with the result...
Re: Unwraping cone shape structure
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 4:50 pm
by Ingsayyad
Dear,
I'm trying to use
unroll->cone but still not working.
my parameters are:
center:
Bottom circle : xyz: 0,0,0
Top circle : xyz: 0,0,24.6
radius:
Bottom circle : x,y,z: 1.84 m
Top circle : x,y,z: 1.68 m
Cone apex: 0,0,275 (I just calculated)
angle:0.38
projection radius=1.84 ( WHAT should I give)
I 'm getting unroll with lower and upper edge of same length.
If required, I can send you pointcoud also.
Re: Unwraping cone shape structure
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 7:31 pm
by daniel
Oh maybe that was not clear but this is exactly what the 'unroll' function does (even for a cone). It unwrap the surface as a 'rectangle' .
This is not a 'conical' projection.
Re: Unwraping cone shape structure
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:23 am
by Ingsayyad
Should it not be like this
Re: Unwraping cone shape structure
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:00 am
by daniel
Yes it could be. But this is not what this tool is doing right now.
Maybe we could add this as an option: can you send me your cloud and the parameters so that I can update the code? (cloudcompare [at] danielgm.net)
Re: Unwraping cone shape structure
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:11 am
by Ingsayyad
surely, I will send it to you today.
Can you do me a favour to do math. I will write matlab code for my today's task.
I can calculate cylinder coordinates.
r=sqrt(x^2+y^2).............So I don't need to fix projection radius.I hope it works
theta=atan(y,x)
z=z
Now problem is what are coordinates of my projection plane.
x=?
y=? y will be fixed? it is xz-plane
z=?
Re: Unwraping cone shape structure
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:51 am
by daniel
You can look at this paper:
http://www.mamikon.com/USArticles/Rolli ... inders.pdf (page 402)
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1) You have first to project each point on the theoretical cone (either orthogonal to the surface or radially)
2) Then you can apply the 'unroll' equation. Let A be the cone apex,
alpha the opening angle and P(x,y,z) be the
projected point. lets assume also that the cone axis is
Z (I'll use the figure notations):
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s = norm(P-A)
rho = sqrt(x^2 + y^2)
phi = atan2(y,x)
theta = phi * sin(alpha)
Eventually you'll have to apply a kind of Lambert conical projection (see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambert_co ... projection). But is should be simpler (I think theta is the longitude and the latitude is constant in your case. And you already know
rho also. I don't have the time to look at the details right now ;)